Far Cry 2: Crazy Map Editor
2008-10-16 08:59:37 by BlimBlim
Ubisoft sent us this video of Far Cry 2 showing the impressive map editor included in the game and what it can do.
Crazy Map Editor
Ubisoft sent us this video of Far Cry 2 showing the impressive map editor included in the game and what it can do.
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Since 226 Days
2008-10-16 09:33:34 Far Cry 2: Crazy Map Editor
whoa.
Since 420 Days
2008-10-16 09:53:33
Was really looking forward to this, but now that they've turned the PC version into a glorified rental, I'm going to pass. Same with Mirror's Edge and Dead Space.
I really hope the games industry get over this fucking DRM phase quickly, otherwise I'm going to have to start getting my games from the dark corners of the internet. It's one thing to check with a game server that your game is legit; it's another to tell me how often I can install my own fucking game.
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Since 764 Days
2008-10-16 10:04:12
You tell 'em Fen!!!!!
Since 699 Days
2008-10-16 10:55:48
Haha @ the Korean's hip hop version of Cannon in D
Since 935 Days
2008-10-16 12:49:39
multiplayer looks like a blast. Cant wait to pick this one up.
Since 1104 Days
2008-10-16 12:50:14
What the fakk!? why not show us a clip when they are doing it with a controller? or does that already exist?.....im confused......im going to sleep now..
Since 784 Days
2008-10-16 12:50:47
How are the maps actually going to be shared? If they are small 500kb things that are sent to every player that simply joins a server, its great.
But if its the same BS as in most other games where you have to go look for a map on a website, download it, look for a server playing it, the server changes maps, you dont have the map, quit game and repeat. I aint gonna bother.
Ingame auto-downloading of maps is what makes or breaks this for me.
Edit: Oh wait, so this trailer is for the console versions? Cool then :P
Since 302 Days
2008-10-16 13:17:58 In reply to Fenrir (2008-10-16 09:53:33)
I really hope the games industry get over this fucking DRM phase quickly, otherwise I'm going to have to start getting my games from the dark corners of the internet. It's one thing to check with a game server that your game is legit; it's another to tell me how often I can install my own fucking game.
Since 420 Days
2008-10-16 13:50:32 In reply to droezelke (2008-10-16 13:17:58)
The DRM on FarCry 2, Spore etc. is NOT there to combat piracy, it's there to limit what consumers can do with their purchased media. The publishers would like nothing more than for me to have to repurchase their game every time I install new hardware in my PC, and I don't doubt that that is what will become of PC gaming should we allow them to continue with this experiment.
Support people who truly support PC as a platform, like Bethesda and Stardock, not the greedy pricks who want to squeeze us for everything we're worth.
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Since 864 Days
2008-10-16 14:49:12
Erm.. back on to the subject of Far Cry 2 map editor. Can you only make maps for multiplayer use or can you set up Single Player maps and put in enemies?
Since 685 Days
2008-10-16 15:23:59 In reply to Fenrir (2008-10-16 13:50:32)
Support people who truly support PC as a platform, like Bethesda and Stardock, not the greedy pricks who want to squeeze us for everything we're worth.
Totally disagree with you and your example with the car makes no sense at all, seriously. Do you share your car on BitTorrent to tousand of people? Can you borrow your car to 3 different people at the same time to drive? I am sure your insurance wouldn't be too happy about that. Games on Steam work differently, you can't install the game unless you login to your Steam account. FarCry2 is available on Steam too, so you can continue using it the way you have used your previous games. I think all games purchased for PC on CD/DVD should use DRM, period.
I am not surprised many developers give up on making good games on PCs and moved on to consoles which have much lower piracy. There are only few good games now on PC and most of them are MMOs, which is totally different story. People like myself work 50 hours a week to create a game, its our job, we do it for living not just for fun, it pays our bills and supports our families. For instance, Pro Evolution Soccer 2009 has been downgraded almost 20.000 times since it was released week ago, 20.000 x 40$ = 800.000$ stolen! Developers don't pay their staff for overtime, so all we can do is hope that the game sells well and get some bonus pay, which doesn't happen allot on PC platform.
If you don't plan on pirating the software/game then you shouldn't have a problem with this, actually you should show support for it since successful sells of PC games will increase the market for it and might just convince more developers to make good games for it... People have no problem with buying DVDs/Bluray for 30$-40$ watch it for an hour and store it, but somehow games which you play for weeks, sometimes for months or years are too expensive for you when the price is not that much different with much higher entertainment value...
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Since 302 Days
2008-10-16 15:47:30 In reply to Zeuxis (2008-10-16 15:23:59)
Totally disagree with you and your example with the car makes no sense at all, seriously. Do you share your car on BitTorrent to tousand of people? Can you borrow your car to 3 different people at the same time to drive? I am sure your insurance wouldn't be too happy about that. Games on Steam work differently, you can't install the game unless you login to your Steam account. FarCry2 is available on Steam too, so you can continue using it the way you have used your previous games. I think all games purchased for PC on CD/DVD should use DRM, period.
I am not surprised many developers give up on making good games on PCs and moved on to consoles which have much lower piracy. There are only few good games now on PC and most of them are MMOs, which is totally different story. People like myself work 50 hours a week to create a game, its our job, we do it for living not just for fun, it pays our bills and supports our families. For instance, Pro Evolution Soccer 2009 has been downgraded almost 20.000 times since it was released week ago, 20.000 x 40$ = 800.000$ stolen! Developers don't pay their staff for overtime, so all we can do is hope that the game sells well and get some bonus pay, which doesn't happen allot on PC platform.
If you don't plan on pirating the software/game then you shouldn't have a problem with this, actually you should show support for it since successful sells of PC games will increase the market for it and might just convince more developers to make good games for it... People have no problem with buying DVDs/Bluray for 30$-40$ watch it for an hour and store it, but somehow games which you play for weeks, sometimes for months or years are too expensive for you when the price is not that much different...
Since 257 Days
2008-10-16 16:19:15 In reply to droezelke (2008-10-16 15:47:30)
Thanks for this reply. I hate it when people are trying to find every excuse to steal games. It is only normal that all sorts of security systems are built in to prevent illegal activities.quote]
I think it's pretty obvious that Fenrir is NOT trying to find an excuse to steal the game. He's simply standing up for his rights. And did you not see how DRM in Spore helped to "prevent illegal activities"? It was still pirated like hotcakes. That's the problem. They're only punishing the law abiding consumers and not stopping those that would steal it. It doesn't work.
Since 982 Days
2008-10-16 17:45:49
DRM only makes things worse for the consumers. I mean the most stupid thing is that install limit BS. I HATE IT! I mean people who pirate the games doesn't need to call to customer service to get the game installed 6th time or so. I want to install it to as many PC's as I want. The same games also has this check on Steam versions so it's not option to get Steam version to get rid of the BS protection.
I know you can deactivate them too but yeah like I should need to do it. What about when the server goes down? I can't install and play then. What about after 5 years or so... maybe the server is shut down completely when the company is out of the business.
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Demigod
Since 302 Days
2008-10-16 17:49:49 In reply to ASURAshadow (2008-10-16 16:19:15)
Thanks for this reply. I hate it when people are trying to find every excuse to steal games. It is only normal that all sorts of security systems are built in to prevent illegal activities.quote]
I think it's pretty obvious that Fenrir is NOT trying to find an excuse to steal the game. He's simply standing up for his rights. And did you not see how DRM in Spore helped to "prevent illegal activities"? It was still pirated like hotcakes. That's the problem. They're only punishing the law abiding consumers and not stopping those that would steal it. It doesn't work.
And why is it wrong to implement it? If games are still pirated even with DRM, does that make pirating legal? Pirating is theft, no matter how you look at it.
Fenrir wants to install his game as much as possible. The DRM system in Far Cry 2 allows that. Every time you uninstall the game, you get an extra install count. And that is fair in my opinion. So why be against it?
I have never had any problems with legal copies, no matter what security was built in. I have never downloaded an illegal copy. I want the PC platform to survive, because everything was born on PC, and all innovations were created on PC. If the PC as platform dissappears, then this will be a huge blow in new, fresh and technological evolution.
Since 156 Days
2008-10-16 17:52:19
Most of the posts in this topic should be bullet timed, IMO. Mods are quick to step in and BT some posts that don't really deserve it. At least they are on topic, which is more than can be said for some of the posts above which have fuck all to do with Far Cries map editor video. Speaking of which, to say this game is nothing more than a rental is a joke. It's worth the full price alone just for this feature which looks amazing.
Since 898 Days
2008-10-16 18:15:44 In reply to droezelke (2008-10-16 17:49:49)
And why is it wrong to implement it? If games are still pirated even with DRM, does that make pirating legal? Pirating is theft, no matter how you look at it.
Fenrir wants to install his game as much as possible. The DRM system in Far Cry 2 allows that. Every time you uninstall the game, you get an extra install count. And that is fair in my opinion. So why be against it?
I have never had any problems with legal copies, no matter what security was built in. I have never downloaded an illegal copy. I want the PC platform to survive, because everything was born on PC, and all innovations were created on PC. If the PC as platform dissappears, then this will be a huge blow in new, fresh and technological evolution.
DRM is simply enforcing the methods which you should already be following.
Since 128 Days
2008-10-16 18:20:55
Wait... just pirating on the pc? What about when u trade in console games to places like gamestop or trade with ur buddies? Hmm... i wonder if what Gamestop does is legal then lol oh well, nobody really cares :P
Back on topic now
Dude I hate waiting for this game now hahaha
Looks like some new additions to multiplayer woohoo!
I wonder how many different builings theyll have in this one?
Since 982 Days
2008-10-16 18:23:36
I am sure that I wont buy this game if they keep the copy protection in it. I mean every time game uses it there is lots of complaining. Consumers doesn't like that kind of copy protection. I don't see the point for CD/DVD check on MP games... There is already cd-key and account system so why do I need to keep the disc in the drive to play it. Actually I don't like when you have to have CD/DVD on drive on any game.
DRM Free FTW!
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Demigod
Since 619 Days
2008-10-16 18:28:42
multi looks OK, but the single player is where im worried. i need info regarding the mission structure. cos atm it sounds like your told to assault one camp after another with no variation. if thats the case. its not worth anything beyond a rental for me.
Since 666 Days
2008-10-16 18:48:33 In reply to Fenrir (2008-10-16 09:53:33)
I really hope the games industry get over this fucking DRM phase quickly, otherwise I'm going to have to start getting my games from the dark corners of the internet. It's one thing to check with a game server that your game is legit; it's another to tell me how often I can install my own fucking game.
I hope that they can find a solution to this piracy problem soon as it seriously threatens our culture !!.
Since 685 Days
2008-10-16 19:07:37
I am still trying to understand why would you LEGALLY want to install any game on more than 5 PCs at the same time. I be pretty impressed if anyone has ONE PC capable of running this game, not to say 5 or more... lol If its for your new PC then uninstall it from old PC and you get your installation back, simple. Piracy is on such a high level now that I am very suprised real gamers who love games and want more quality games don't support DRM system. Sure its not water proof, but its either that or no more new PC games since it will not be woth for develoepers.
If you plan on borrowing this game to a friend, that is fine, but keep in mind you need the serial and game in the DVD-Rom (just like you would on a console) ....unless you let him copy it and use NO DVD crack, which again, is illigal and stealing.
Game rental is different, its only one copy going around, but developers already plan on charging places like Gamestop for that, since shops make a crazy profit on this, while developers get nada.
Keep in mind pretty much all computer software works this way, Microsoft and Adobe. If you purchase Flash, Photoshop or Office etc you one get 1 install, that's it! You paid for one copy, why should you get unlimited?
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"Criticism comes easier than craftsmanship" (~400 BC)
Since 685 Days
2008-10-16 19:09:38 In reply to broman (2008-10-16 19:02:08)
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"Criticism comes easier than craftsmanship" (~400 BC)
Since 1912 Days
2008-10-16 19:17:49
The BEST map editor on consoles... would give some PC map editors a run for their money... Very cool! Nice move Ubi. Lets see if Infinity Ward, Bungie, others follow your lead in the coming years?