Images of Sega Rally
2007-06-21 14:31:07 by Manager
Sega released these images of Sega Rally, from both the PS3 and X360 versions. The game uses a new technique, making it possible for the wheels to create patterns in the ground - which makes it harder for the cars behind to pick the right track to go in. More info inside, plus some images of this effect.
Quoting the press release:
As well as learning the race tracks to gain split-second advantages, players will start to see, hear and feel nuances in taking one racing line or another. For example, players might see a contour made by another car through some gravel, which if they follow will help them gain speed, whereas if they take a fresh route through the gravel it could potentially slow them down. It's these gameplay elements that give extra depth, is what players expect from a next-gen console and is something no game has done before.
HOW DOES IT WORK?
Most games use a 1 metre polygon grid to drive upon, but that was never going to work for the level of details aimed for in SEGA Rally. Because of this, the entire drivable surface of every track within SEGA Rally is modelled at the massively high detail of 6 centimetres for every single polygon - that's 17 times more detail and means that each tyre of each Rally car interacts with up to 12 polygons at any time.
Importantly, the physics engine powering SEGA Rally also runs the detail at a high frame-rate, reacting to every bump in the highly detailed scenery. For every surface, there are a number of characteristics - in addition to the normal static and dynamic slip components SEGA Racing Studio has modelled wear rate and how ruts form for every polygon, how the friction changes as players dig down into the surface, and the profile of the debris which tyres leave as they churn each surface up. SEGA Racing Studio are even able to model the higher grip levels expected on tarmac as traffic lays down rubber - and that means real live racing lines forming that can and must be reacted to as in a real race.
X360 images
PS3 images
Environment images
Since 840 Days
2007-06-21 14:44:58 Images of Sega Rally
sounds good, but lets see how well they pull it off, motorstorms "real time" deformation is nothing more than a gimmick and doesnt do anything to the actual track
Since 852 Days
2007-06-21 14:46:05
great images. Can't wait to see some ingame footage...
Since 911 Days
2007-06-21 15:02:48
6 centimetres instead of 1 metre means 277 times more details (approximatly 17x17) times more details, not only 17 times?
hmm. graphically, the game looks good, but there's something unnatural about these screenshots, can't tell what it is...
are there some bikini girls ingame that will clean up the cars after every stage? ;)
EDIT: The environmental shots look much more natural again - the trees/palms are even moving in the wind! Maybe it's just the strange view angle and zoom in the first load of pictures that make them look so unnatural to me.
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ScarJack
Since 981 Days
2007-06-21 15:03:57
Insane!
How many polygons are they pushing? That track/ground mesh seems pretty dense, much needed for the trackdeformations otherwhise it wouldn't look correct. It's like simulating cloth physix, for that it's best to have a dense mesh.
This all looks very good imo.
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Since 1029 Days
2007-06-21 15:05:35
Those are pretty awesome looking.. but I really need to see some gameplay now :)
Since 840 Days
2007-06-21 15:26:28
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/6610...
pretty fucking amazing
Since 645 Days
2007-06-21 15:38:28 In reply to acm2000 (2007-06-21 15:26:28)
pretty fucking amazing
Since 380 Days
2007-06-21 15:48:43 In reply to acm2000 (2007-06-21 14:44:58)
Since 840 Days
2007-06-21 15:59:26 In reply to Nik (2007-06-21 15:48:43)
Since 645 Days
2007-06-21 16:04:15
motorstorm would be amazing if it wasnt so rushed,they cut alot of corners
Since 912 Days
2007-06-21 16:12:47
man thats a lot of polgons.
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Since 1666 Days
2007-06-21 16:14:10 In reply to ramiuk1 (2007-06-21 15:38:28)
Anyway, hows the online MP in this game? (That's the most important thing for me)..
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Since 840 Days
2007-06-21 16:31:59
i just saw the new pics added.... fuck me, that poly count is insane, this game does what motorstorm was supposed to do according to sonys bollocks talk :P
Since 439 Days
2007-06-21 16:35:00
"I mean the side with those trees looks and feels like a solid wall.." My thoughts exactly..I was close to getting claustrophobic whil watching the vid ;-)
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Since 982 Days
2007-06-21 16:40:08
Now thats nextgen dirt was behind the curve.
PuS3Y
Since 977 Days
2007-06-21 17:23:32
Very impressive, can't wait to take this for a spin.
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Since 1028 Days
2007-06-21 18:07:41
Awh man what the hell is up with the invisible walls :( I want to send cars hurtling into trees! I play dirty :p
Since 931 Days
2007-06-21 18:47:39
Wow, very nice.
Some games choose to put more polys on the cars. Sega rally puts them on the floor!
I don't know about you, but the PS3 shots (aside from having a wierd black border) look a bit cleaner than the 360 shots. More AA and better particle effects. bullshots?
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Since 958 Days
2007-06-21 18:57:32
It's not really invisable walls, just the vegitation creates walls
I wonder how easy in it is in MP to take the time to drastically change a part of the track and ruin a race for others...
Since 380 Days
2007-06-21 19:00:34 In reply to acm2000 (2007-06-21 15:59:26)
http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/748/748488/img_4097...
It does affect the handling only slightly, depends on the vehicle. If its a light bike, you'll feel the bumps more. If you're driving a truck, you won't feel it much.
Stop spewing nonsense.
Since 1052 Days
2007-06-21 19:12:48
Man Motorstorm is pretty. And yeah, while it's not as pronounced in Motorstorm the tracks do affect handling. After a few laps especially if you take a wrong turn with a bike and end up where the big trucks go.
Between this and Flatout UC, some crazy muddy messyness is finally heading the 360's way though! :)
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Since 1059 Days
2007-06-21 19:58:40 In reply to Nik (2007-06-21 19:00:34)
http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/748/748488/img_4097...
It does affect the handling only slightly, depends on the vehicle. If its a light bike, you'll feel the bumps more. If you're driving a truck, you won't feel it much.
Stop spewing nonsense.
I believe they use a simplified invisible deformed mesh to make the wheels bounce over these "ruts"
Since 380 Days
2007-06-21 20:33:18 In reply to Slabs (2007-06-21 19:58:40)
I believe they use a simplified invisible deformed mesh to make the wheels bounce over these "ruts"
I'm not sure how to prove you wrong but maybe you should try out the game and play around with the mud. If deformation is just texture mapping, why would Sony be so proud of that?
Here's more pics taken at a lower angle. http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/748/748488/img_4355...
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/image_viewer/frame_l...
". The environment does a nice job of showcasing MotorStorm's deformable terrain, with tires cutting through the crusty top layers of dirt to reveal the slick and wet mud below."
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/749/749979p1.html
"The new mud track also appeared to be delivering on the promise of the early demos of the game that showed off the messy, gooey physics you'd expect when tearing through a muddy course."
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/driving/motorstorm/new...
Anyway not every part of the tracks in Motorstorm have deformable grounds so maybe you are also misleaded by other screens.
Since 433 Days
2007-06-21 21:06:40
i dont like it, it has that sega vibe that i just dont like. where it looks more like an environment sonic would look more comfortable in rather then rally cars. i'll stick to DiRT thanks.
Since 704 Days
2007-06-21 23:00:32
Didn't read the above comments, but my guess is that somone said "that technique isn't quite new, it's already used in Motorstorm".
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