2005-10-25 20:17:38

Acert you are correct!! And it's about time that people start to recognize and stop pulling punches on companies such as EA and Activision etc. EA is not the only one out there doing things such as this, though EA is one of the main culprits. There are so many good games out there now and upcoming that are very good quality games that either never get good ratings or get airtime either in printed magazines, web, or even tv shows in reviews/preview simply because these companies cannot (for financial reasons) or chose NOT to wine and dine (certain) reviewers, and therefore these other games may end up with a lesser 4-6 out of 10 and a EA or other larger gaming conglomerate that does do the afore mentioned thing may end up with a 8-9 out of 10, when you and I know darn well that the game is far below that but the average consumer that goes and buys the average gaming magazine or web site or tv show will see the above mentioned 8-9 out of 10 rating and say wow it must be a good game and/or the above mentioned shelf space that these large gaming conglomerate's can now afford and insist on and since they've now basically bought that game reviewers rating and basically bought that shelf space they've now pushed aside a better game with better gameplay and put THEIR lesser game but with their BOUGHT rating, on their BOUGHT shelf space....

2005-10-25 20:50:53

I've never heard this much complaining about launch titles. Are you people unaware that This is the best launch lineup ever. How can you complain, when you've never had something this good. When xbox1 came out, all you had was Halo. When PS2 came out, all you had was a DVD player. Now that you actually have a selection, you nit-pick. It's so annoying.

2005-10-25 20:53:12 In reply to easynow (2005-10-25 20:36:08)

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2005-10-25 20:55:03 In reply to Trup1aya4rea1 (2005-10-25 20:50:53)

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2005-10-25 21:12:31

^^^ i guess, but there is no reason for the complaining. None of the companies, not even Rare has had a lot of time to explore and understand the hardware. so what you get is decent looking work, certainly much more impressive than what we see in the current gen (except Tony Hawk), but not quite representative to what the system is fully capable of. An in the case of this game. It was being developed simultaneosly over 8 systems. Surely they can't all get the attention that you feel they deserve, but to say they haven't done a decent job is a sever understatement.

2005-10-25 21:13:07

This entire discussion is so pointless, depressing and stupid I just can't help myself commenting on it. I've realised lately that there's just no point in arguing with some people here, so I'll just state my opinion and avoid actually discussing a whole lot.

I have an Xbox, a Gamecube, a Dreamcast, and a Playstation 2 in front of my telly right now. The rest is tucked away with my Saturn at the ready, should I feel an urge to play NiGHTS or Sega Rally. In the event that I'd like to take Perfect Dark for a spin, I can even take out my N64, though it's in there with the SNES and Megadrive, really, you know, deep within my wardrobe.

Somehow, despite the fac that Dreamcast, PS2, Gamecube and Xbox have roughly the same number of buttons, I actually play different games on them. It's crazy, I know! I even got my gamecube after I got my Xbox, so the graphics are slightly less impressive, but I still play some games on it! You're dealing with a madman surely!

When the 360 comes out I'm gonna buy it because the experiences I will have on that, no matter how same-buttony, will be different. The same way God of War is different on PS2 from anything on Xbox, and I wouldn't miss that game for the world. If you're honestly buying the 360 on day 1 without actually wanting to play the games themselves, but rather just have them because they look good then that's really unfortunate and I wish you could share my excitement over playing stuff like PDZ, Condemned or Kameo.

Also, we see revolution in games all the time without changing the imput method. Even though I do feel PC games are sort of stuck in 1998, surely nobody would claim you don't get new experiences in games? I'm not a huge fan of HL2, but certainly it felt fresh in the things it did right. Look at the PS2, over its cycle of 8 button, dual analogue and one d-pad-ness, it has seen quite a few really innovative games, most recently being stuff like Shadow of The Colossus and Katamari Damacy. The notion that the 360 will see "no revolutionary" games is just absurd and disenheartening.

As for this game I dunno what to make of it really, but it's true like Manager says that if you're gonna buy this because it looks appealing to you, you might aswell pay the extra fiver for the bestest version of it.

"EA is known for great gameplay"
One day I must pack my bags, hop on a train and visit your world, donmam. I will also bring stuff like Rise of the Imperfects and Catwoman to see if they're magically better in your world aswell. :)

2005-10-25 21:21:48 In reply to Trup1aya4rea1 (2005-10-25 20:50:53)

2005-10-25 21:24:42

"THOSE ARE REAL MEN GAMES"

I do indeed rest my case.

2005-10-25 21:56:10 In reply to Manager (2005-10-25 20:10:41)

2005-10-25 22:04:39

DrHenrySaltz.
Sure, fair enough, you can of course keep playing the Xbox 1 games. I wouldn't hope for that many AAA (or AA) titles in the next year though, but sure, there are alot of old games to be played too. But then again, it's all that old-gen graphics. And even though some games don't look that good right now, there are still games that do look good.

You must understand, which I'm sure you do, that there always will be not-that-talented developers, just like in every aspect of our lives. Some games will look good, but there will ALWAYS be games that look like crap.

And, I really don't think NFSMW look like an Xbox game. Sure, not as impressive in this trailer - but when you look at the gameplay videos, and see all the surroundings (buildings, bridges, oncoming traffic), and see the nice asfalt and stuff - you then do understand that it couldn't be done on Xbox. At least not with over 10 fps.

"And neither could Blood Wake. I didn't see Blood Awake."

Well, ouch. ;)

2005-10-25 22:28:30

That was the point I was also trying to make as well, I wasn't necessarily pointing out all the flaws in this particular game, but in alot of the EA games in general and from alot of these "so called" next-gen games and I do believe it is Activision that has said they are to be releasing something like close to 40 games for the 360 for calendar year 06, now how is it possible they or for that fact any gaming company could possibly prepare any QUALITY next-gen games of that quantity ?? And for anyone who still thinks that MS if giving up on the gen 1 Xbox they have something like over 200 games in the works for calendar year 06 and some are AAA titles (not sure right off hand how many are) but once again it will be these large game companies who will be the deciding factors in the crossover to the next -gen platforms and NOT MS because they're the one's setting the price points on the games, meaning they're the ones deciding on what parts to put in what games and on what connectivity in the Live aspect on the crossover from the gen 1 Xbox to the 360 and NOT MS..

2005-10-25 22:36:16

how much "Boulet Time" do you guys need, ffs if you dont like it dont buy it, and certainly dont waste your time bitchin about it, just find a happy place. :]

2005-10-25 23:11:44

Huhu ok whatever, next time you post all in caps lock, you're gone.

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2005-10-25 23:33:30

My bad man! got a lil carried away

2005-10-25 23:40:32

looks okay...

2005-10-25 23:56:10

Geezus, if this title beats out PGR3 in sales or even ends up in top 5 xbox 360 games, then I don't know what else to think about my fellow gamers anymore. Seriously, this game probably spent 2-3 months at most by transferring the codes and adding some minor graphical tweaks from the xbox version and slap a 59.99 price tag. Pleaseeee do not give EA money, tell them to put a game in development for 3 years before releasing it.

2005-10-26 01:03:26

Alright, I played this. It's like Burnout Revenge WITH bloomlighting and WITHOUT it's pepper. Even the arrows to show you the way are exactly the same. Hoorray for blingbling cars and 400 euro's for a new system!
*sigh*
Prefer the innovations of Test Drive.

2005-10-26 01:04:35 In reply to Manager (2005-10-25 22:04:39)

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Sorry for my bad English.