Halo 3 Halo 3

2007-07-02 20:05:12 In reply to Optimusv2 (2007-07-02 19:46:45)

2007-07-02 20:10:18 In reply to Phaethon360 (2007-07-02 19:33:16)

2007-07-02 20:13:02 In reply to GriftGFX (2007-07-02 20:10:18)

2007-07-02 20:15:01 In reply to deftangel (2007-07-02 20:13:02)

2007-07-02 21:23:42

I never thought it would look like the best xbox 360 game just that it would look like an amazing AAA title thats all I'm saying about Halo 3.

I believe it will look great noticeably much better than the MP and thats all I'm saying thats the height of my expectations. So I tend to be disagreeable when I hear expectations are too high or unrealistic because I don't think my expectations are unrealistic. I believe I had unrealistic expectations for Blue Dragon and it managed to surpass those surprisingly.

"If Crysis is such an unfair comparison, why not just look at UT3.. it's not hard to see where Halo falls short"

And this is where I think you don't know what I mean. Look at UT3 to see where Halo falls short? I would take Halo singleplayer looking exactly like the multiplayer with minor improvements over UT3 anyday. I really mean that. UE3 titles have a certain look to them that just wouldn't fit right within the Halo Universe.. it wouldn't be halo at all I think so I'd want Halo to look as different as humanely possible I don't want Halo 3 looking anything like UT3 or anything that I would classify UE3. You ever wonder why I always say I hope bioware uses their own engine for next mass effect game or SK uses their own engine for next too human? Because I feel only then can we get the experience and style that is more properly indicative of the devs.

Looking at UT3 I see where Halo 3 shines... I really mean it when I say I despise just about everything there is about the look of UT3 and a great deal of things involving the UE3 engine itself. Many of them I can't explain, but it just doesn't feel right to me if that makes any sense. It isn't really about graphics for me, but about the vision and style the developer is going for. If a developer I feel properly conveyed the vision they are going for who cares about the graphical details that is an accomplishment in itself and thats where halo 3 singleplayer will shine. Its one of the many reasons I think Dead or Alive 4 is one of the best looking games ever. He totally nailed his vision who cares if they aren't using the shaders people want them to use or evolving the look of the characters in a way people deem next gen (which is a common complaint I see) I'm satisfied knowing the dev nailed their vision and that is definitely going to happen with Halo 3.

Also I said any dev of similar talent could achieve what crytek did with those incredible specs if they wanted to. I know bungie, id, valve and tons of other devs would have the talent to do it, but i'm not knocking crytek for their achievement just saying I know others can match them.

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October 20th 2007 (A good day)

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

2007-07-02 21:41:59

I'm a graphics whore when it comes to a lot of sports titles though. Those are different =P

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

October 20th 2007 (A good day)

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

2007-07-02 21:52:13 In reply to GriftGFX (2007-07-02 20:15:01)

2007-07-02 22:15:17

What does "look the best" even mean anyway? Halo 1/2 has art direction that single handedly spanks loads of other technically superior games and I have no doubt the same will be true for Halo 3. Whether it's got all the fancy, grand words working for it or not is something I think ultimately means very little to people (unless the tech side is what interests them).

While I still find it difficult to believe that UE3 actually turns everything into gray/brown paste, I see the distinction Optimus is going for here. Halo deliberately has more "peaks" in its visual style, be it colour, lighting, clear surfaces, and so on. Meanwhile, UE3 games (though prolly not because of the engine) seem very busy with details, cluttering everything up in grittyness. Even if the grittyness is a result of MOOOH PAOAAAAH!, it doesn't really make it better. Besides that, Halo has a very concious design on everything, sort of like.. I dunno.. Transformers or.. a super hero show of some kind, not holding back on goofyness or pastel colours to actually differentiate locations, technology and characters.

I guess that's why the surroundings in Halo are interesting, because they have character. Even in multiplayer the different surroundings have roots in the mythos, and the design reflects that - they're not just... noise like in lots of other games.

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2007-07-02 22:20:35 In reply to SimonM7 (2007-07-02 22:15:17)

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Finish The Fight Sept. 25th

Halo 3 Bitches!!!

Beware, Heretic is on the prowl!!!

2007-07-02 22:42:45

Very well said Simon thats what I was trying to say.

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

October 20th 2007 (A good day)

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

2007-07-02 22:50:58 In reply to Optimusv2 (2007-07-02 22:42:45)

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Finish The Fight Sept. 25th

Halo 3 Bitches!!!

Beware, Heretic is on the prowl!!!

2007-07-02 22:51:26 In reply to Optimusv2 (2007-07-02 21:23:42)

2007-07-02 23:03:47

^^^ Kudos to Simon for penning something in one paragraph that would have taken me 5! I concur.

It did just occur to me though, that the photomode has been confirmed today (yay awesome!) Now could they be adding in globs of AA and post processing for this and hence the resultant screens look better? I'd almost want a PGR3 level photomode in Halo 3 but of course I'd want AA in the final game too, even if I didn't notice the jaggies too much during the beta.

2007-07-02 23:04:54

RTS with UE3 (Halo wars), that could be interesting!

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2007-07-02 23:16:31 In reply to SimonM7 (2007-07-02 22:15:17)

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2007-07-02 23:27:31

July 10th/13th is going to be judgement day for so many AAA titles, Bring it on!!!!

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2007-07-03 00:01:53

I expect to see something like this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zaXtRolln0

Still the most impressive demonstration i've ever seen!

2007-07-03 00:55:38 In reply to Jin187 (2007-07-03 00:01:53)

2007-07-03 01:09:57 In reply to GriftGFX (2007-07-03 00:55:38)

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"That just happened 'cause that was awesome" - Randy Pitchford, Gearbox

2007-07-03 09:59:13 In reply to anm8rjp (2007-07-02 22:51:26)

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We're going to make a giant can opener, and open a giant can of whoop-ass!

2007-07-03 10:30:28

Also the team working on multiplayer is 12-20 people whereas the team working on singleplayer is well over 80 I think.

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

October 20th 2007 (A good day)

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.