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Ronsauce

Ronsauce
Since 1163 Days

2008-10-10 22:47:43 In reply to Jato (2008-10-10 22:44:47)

Posted by Jato
This game is hands down the best looking game around, by a large margin. Graphics are insane!
Were we watching different videos or something?

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Jato

Jato
Since 1055 Days

2008-10-10 22:49:04 In reply to Ronsauce (2008-10-10 22:47:43)

I don't know, is that a trick question or just a "clever" way of stating that I'm wrong? Help me out here, I'm so confused right now...

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Ronsauce

Ronsauce
Since 1163 Days

2008-10-10 22:56:22 In reply to Jato (2008-10-10 22:49:04)

If you were just stating your own, personal opinion, then you obviously can't be wrong.

I'm confused myself. The game's bright and colourful...but it's also pretty sterile and flat-looking, and there are plenty of games that are at least as good-looking as it...and certainly not less good-looking by a large margin in my opinion.

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daikide

daikide
Since 266 Days

2008-10-10 23:08:41

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WOW!

Jato

Jato
Since 1055 Days

2008-10-10 23:23:58 In reply to Ronsauce (2008-10-10 22:56:22)

I don't know, perhaps it's just me but this game really looks so much better than anything out there imo. Perhaps it's mainly the artstyle, I don't know. I really do think ik looks much better than anything else I've seen thus far (yes, including the usual suspects).

The choice for this "perfect utopia" obviously makes it easier to achieve such a level of graphical quality due to not having to waste too much resources on stuff like debris/particles or whatever and it makes sense when it looks sterile in the context of the story/narrative. So sure, that helps...but regardless...the game really shines.

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Ronsauce

Ronsauce
Since 1163 Days

2008-10-11 00:50:20 In reply to Jato (2008-10-10 23:23:58)

Fair enough.

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Jin187

Jin187
Since 922 Days

2008-10-11 01:50:37

I agree, the dualshock sticks are terrible for FPS games, Infact they are pretty awful for most games that require intricate quick movement.

btw, the game looks great

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digi_matrix

digi_matrix
Since 1753 Days

2008-10-11 02:11:51

When does this come out as demo, because it's really hurting having to watch this game!!!

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meatslug

meatslug
Since 62 Days

2008-10-11 04:13:47

Must say this game looks interesting. Hope it delivers on the game play and it's fun that DICE trys something different from just releasing another battlefield game in the series.

Btw, everyone knows the atari jaguar controller is the best that ever happend humanity.

Ronsauce

Ronsauce
Since 1163 Days

2008-10-11 05:24:00

After watching the vid a few times, I gotta say, this game looks boring as all hell.

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ramiuk1

Since 794 Days

2008-10-11 07:36:50

wow looking great,i just cant imagine playing alot ofthis game,i think motion sickness may come into it after a few beers and hours play

sarias

sarias
Since 1112 Days

2008-10-11 07:58:14 In reply to droezelke (2008-10-10 14:26:30)

You must be new here :)

Posted by droezelke
How did this turn out into a Playstation vs Xbox war?
You must be new here :)

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BarfHappy

Since 1018 Days

2008-10-11 08:11:55 In reply to Jato (2008-10-10 23:23:58)

Posted by Jato
I don't know, perhaps it's just me but this game really looks so much better than anything out there imo. Perhaps it's mainly the artstyle, I don't know. I really do think ik looks much better than anything else I've seen thus far (yes, including the usual suspects).

The choice for this "perfect utopia" obviously makes it easier to achieve such a level of graphical quality due to not having to waste too much resources on stuff like debris/particles or whatever and it makes sense when it looks sterile in the context of the story/narrative. So sure, that helps...but regardless...the game really shines.
Imo, it is the fact that they either (1) used a GI-capable renderer to bake in the texture maps, or (2) managed to do a fast shaders ramp that performs ambiant occlusion.

The natural "colour bleeding" is what makes the game look so good for me, certainly not the geometry :P (buildings are well... square, there is no fancy architecture afail)

rottingzombie

rottingzombie
Since 307 Days

2008-10-11 20:13:22

I don't like the whole "follow the red" thing that's going on. Seem's a bit of a Ninja Gaiden "Follow the blue" gimic.

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2008-10-11 20:21:41 In reply to rottingzombie (2008-10-11 20:13:22)

Posted by rottingzombie
I don't like the whole "follow the red" thing that's going on. Seem's a bit of a Ninja Gaiden "Follow the blue" gimic.
You can turn off the red guide, its optional.

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rottingzombie

rottingzombie
Since 307 Days

2008-10-11 20:23:11

I see. I think I'd rather go without the red. Makes the world less "real"

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2008-10-11 20:39:08 In reply to rottingzombie (2008-10-11 20:23:11)

Posted by rottingzombie
I see. I think I'd rather go without the red. Makes the world less "real"
Well it's optional :)

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blindrocket

blindrocket
Since 583 Days

2008-10-12 06:56:31

Symmetrical analogs > Shifted analogs. Much more ergonomic. Dualshock is great for FPS. Always has been.

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Ronsauce

Ronsauce
Since 1163 Days

2008-10-12 13:39:21 In reply to blindrocket (2008-10-12 06:56:31)

Posted by blindrocket
Symmetrical analogs > Shifted analogs. Much more ergonomic. Dualshock is great for FPS. Always has been.
It really isn't more ergonomic though. There's a reason gaming publications raved about how great the 360's controller felt: it ergonomically kicks the shit out of the Dualshock.

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jackdoe

Since 359 Days

2008-10-13 00:21:35 In reply to Ronsauce (2008-10-12 13:39:21)

Posted by Ronsauce
It really isn't more ergonomic though. There's a reason gaming publications raved about how great the 360's controller felt: it ergonomically kicks the shit out of the Dualshock.
This is all a matter of OPINION. So people. DON'T TRY TO SHOVE YOURS OR SOMEONE ELSE'S OPINION DOWN SOMEONE'S THROAT. That aside, I personally have NO issue with either the DS3 or 360 controllers. I can switch between the two and feel ERGONOMICALLY okay, hell I switched between the two for CoD 4 and played with no performance difference.

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Ronsauce

Ronsauce
Since 1163 Days

2008-10-13 02:42:19 In reply to jackdoe (2008-10-13 00:21:35)

Nope. 360's controller is ergonomically superior. Fact. Pwnd. Kidding. Though not really.

I wouldn't exactly count on his opinion being unbiased based on his avatar/sig... or yours based on your sig.... but that's also just a matter of my opinion.

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jackdoe

Since 359 Days

2008-10-13 03:45:24 In reply to Ronsauce (2008-10-13 02:42:19)

Posted by Ronsauce
Nope. 360's controller is ergonomically superior. Fact. Pwnd. Kidding. Though not really.

I wouldn't exactly count on his opinion being unbiased based on his avatar/sig... or yours based on your sig.... but that's also just a matter of my opinion.
I also wouldn't count on yours as being unbiased because an opinion is by definition biased, otherwise it wouldn't be an opinion. An unbiased opinion, in other words, is an oxymoron. You are entitled to yours, but IMO there is no difference in controllers. And based on your past posts, I'd say you are more 360 biased... but that is also a matter of my own opinion.

Also, as a hint: you can connect a 360 controller to a PC. For future reference.

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Ronsauce

Ronsauce
Since 1163 Days

2008-10-13 04:58:59

Also, it's not a matter of opinion which controller is more ergonomic. The left control stick on the 360's controller is in line with the natural position of the thumb. With the Dualshock, the thumb has to be moved downward to a less natural position. It'd be like trying to argue that a car's steering wheel that is just at arms length is arguably as ergonomic as one that's closer and more comfortable to grab. I'm not saying you can't get used to it, but that doesn't mean it's on equal footing design-wise.

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zerolight

Since 1153 Days

2008-10-14 14:26:19

If you own just one platform, then I'm sure you'd have no problem with whatever controller you have, as you work around the limitations. If you own a 360 and a PS3, then it's a different story. When you play a PS3 FPS game after a 360 one, the first thing you notice is the deadzone in the sticks, which makes it hard to control fine aiming. You get used to it over time, but I still struggle with FPS/TPS games on the PS3, but don't on the 360. Watch almost any movie of a PS3 FPS/TPS (Socom is an example), you'll see that there's lots of twitchy turning when the user was trying to make a slight turn to the right or left. That happens far less on the 360 simply because the smaller deadzones make adjustments easier.

That's probably why I tend not to buy these kinda games on the PS3. This month, LBP on the PS3. Next month Mirrors Edge on the 360.

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