2008-10-10 19:10:20

still trying to convince people that fable 2 looks amazing technically...ok, i'll leave you to your deluded fantasies. but this doesnt come anywhere close to the likes of killzone 2, gears of war 2, and resi 5. hell, it doesnt even come close to the likes of uncharted. but then considering its scale its understandable it'd have low res textures everywhere and LOD issues out the wasoo. not every game can look as pretty as gears, Kz or resi 5....but to say fable 2 is comparable to crysis....LMAO, thats just plain rediculius. but as i said, i'll leave you to whatever deluded fantasies you wish to have.


as for baleur, im not arguing with that, as i said multiple times, artistically fable 2 is AMAZING, and it helps you forget the technical shortcomings, but just becasue its good doesnt mean those technical shortcoming dont exist.

as for your analogies, they make no sence. take the painting example for instance. what im saying would be the equivilent of a person with huge artistic tellent creating a painting with no meaning or soul. same for you music example and even the book example. a book can be well written, but not have a good story. those are better anologies of what im trying to say.

also, no, art style ISNT everything. if you dont have at least a competant technical side to a game you have something that performs terribly, and looks terrible, no matter how stylised that house may be, if its a jagged, low resolution mess (not what fable 2 is btw) its going to take away from the overall experience. take mass effect...an amazing vision of the future and space exploration, but that texture pop in was distracting as hell) a lot of games today manage to balance to 2. fable 2 however gets an A* in style, but only a pass in the technical aspects.

but i agree with your closing comment. i too would rather look at fable 2 then crysis, but thats becasue crysis has no style at all, its striving for realism. its trying to replicate reality. fable has more visual interest...but that doesnt mean fable 2 is a better or even comparable looking game. it just means it has a more interesting art style, which i've been saying since the begining, its the technical side of the visuals where it faulters, i dont see how anyone can deny that.

2008-10-10 22:00:01

Sorry, but Killzone 2 has not even got a tree around, and tiny spaces, and the lighting is far better in Fable 2, so more detail, bigger spaces and better lighting make it far better technically than KZ2

And has far better textures on top

As for Uncharted, i take that as a joke, Uncharted is generations behind Fable 2 in every way, the scale of the thing is totally last gen

Low textures everywhere ? You wish, that pic alone makes Uncharted look a old, and this is a free roaming game too, not paths



Last but not least i meantioned each and every aspect of the brilliance of Fable 2 engine

- huge detail
- real forests, not paths
- huge number of trees around in a huge scale
- shadows from each leaf to everything around, from all trees around in huge forests
- translucency in tree leaves
- great textures
- huge visibility
- huge cities, no loading in houses
- dynamic shadowed light beams
- 50+ self shadowed NPC's around
etc

So, you either have something to counter the above or not

You have no arguments, so even if you write 100 pages, will mean nothing

2008-10-10 22:41:44

labwarrior, you are ridiculous.

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2008-10-10 23:26:39

I'm sure this is a good game and all but graphicly it really fails to impress and after release i won't be surprised if we end up finding out it's running at a sub-720p resolution. I suppose the artstyle is ok-ish but to be quite frank it's nothing new and has been done better before. Trying to claim this as a technical marvel is just well... madness. I'll be sticking to Gears 2, i was expecting some new improved graphics in these screenshots but the game just disappoints more and more really.

2008-10-11 00:56:07 In reply to phantomistice (2008-10-10 23:26:39)

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"If we can hit that bull's-eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards...Checkmate." - Zapp Brannigan

"Just because it'll fit doesn't mean it should go there" - Kyle
"That's what she said." - Me

2008-10-11 12:37:46

labwarrior please stop posting large files. Thank you.

2008-10-11 13:19:15

labwarrior, I could post pics of real life and you'd still say Fable 2 looks better.

There's actually no point in arguing with you as arguing with someone who thinks their invalid points have merit is useless.

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"If we can hit that bull's-eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards...Checkmate." - Zapp Brannigan

"Just because it'll fit doesn't mean it should go there" - Kyle
"That's what she said." - Me

2008-10-11 15:31:40 In reply to Ronsauce (2008-10-11 13:19:15)

2008-10-11 20:47:36 In reply to Ronsauce (2008-10-11 20:30:45)

I don't know why this is still going on. We all know by now that LW is a huge Fable 2 fan. :p

2008-10-11 21:44:04 In reply to vspectra06 (2008-10-11 20:47:36)

I'm a huge Fable fan as well, but I have sense enough to know it's not the be all end all of game engine technology.

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"If we can hit that bull's-eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards...Checkmate." - Zapp Brannigan

"Just because it'll fit doesn't mean it should go there" - Kyle
"That's what she said." - Me

2008-10-12 03:05:45 In reply to Ronsauce (2008-10-11 20:30:45)